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====== Transcript KrisMoore 2015-10 ======
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; kmoore: around? Hey, don't spread this in the chat channel yet, but do you still want to hack on AppCafe UI?
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; kmoore: Looks like we may be going forward with our existing one, which means if your group wants to do some work on jails / vm / other, that could end up going into PC-BSD / TrueOS / FreeNAS
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; kmoore: Looks like we may be going forward with our existing one, which means if your group wants to do some work on jails / vm / other, that could end up going into PC-BSD / TrueOS / FreeNAS
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; tboston: hey
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; tboston: sounds good
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; tboston: now, the jail stuff won't be kept in app café then or what just changed?
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; kmoore:no, it will be, the plan is to turn AppCafe into a one-stop app for all things App related
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like System Packages - App Jails - Jail Management - VM Management
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; tboston:okay good
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and we should talk about that directly with you? or who's done that until now?
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; kmoore:talk to me about it for now, kenmoore is doing some backend stuff, and joshms has helped with css / theme
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; tboston:we actually started with pcutil already
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; kmoore:nice!
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:stuck_out_tongue:
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; tboston:so now we have two projects
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I'll go see my colleagues later and see what we can do
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btw seen my pull request?
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tested that on a freebsd vm already
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; kmoore:yep, leme get that put in
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done!
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; tboston:you'd better check again
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; kmoore:oh? it looked fine, did I miss a comment?
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; tboston:no no
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just because I'm still not always sure if I did everything correct
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although I tested it
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; kmoore:oh, it looked good to me, i looked at the diff :simple_smile:
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; tboston:k
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ttyl, still at wok
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work*
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; kmoore:ok, ttyl!
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; tboston:so
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off work
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I'm still not sure what you actually need with app café
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; kmoore:nothing specific at the moment. Its just that you expressed interest in hacking on jail management UI
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; tboston:yeah sure
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; kmoore:since we aren't having a 3rd party do it now, we are going with the existing UI, and I'm hacking on jail stuff at the moment
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so if you guys want to send patches, improvements, etc. those will be welcome
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; tboston:we'd like to make a project out of it
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atm you have that 'plugin' thing in app café
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I guess this will be thrown away and you'd want real jail management + vm management
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; kmoore:well, yes and no
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our current plan is to have the AppCafe do this:
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System Packages - Current way of installing PKG stuff on PC-BSD / TrueOS server
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App Containers - Pre-Built jail images, we can download / depoy with single click
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Jail Manager - Full iocage jail UI, for power users who roll / run their own jails
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VM Containers - Pre-Built VM images which can be downloaded / run with single click
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BHyve Manager - Full bhyve UI, power users, etc
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I.E. we want to have an "easy" option for jails/vms, and then the full-blown advanced mode, for l33t users :stuck_out_tongue:
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Often a home user just wants to deploy plex, but they have no idea about jails/vm, so container is way to go there
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; tboston:okay
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; kmoore:no mess, no fuss
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; tboston:and you NEED that in AppCafé?
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or could that iocage/bhyve stuff be seperate
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in a webgui
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; kmoore:Well, the AppCafe is a webgui, so thats part of it yes
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ideally we wanted it all there, so its a single web-driven location you can use to control all apps/pkgs/jails/vms on a system
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but it could be separated into distinct components as well if necessary
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; tboston:and then like an 'advanced' tab for power users
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; kmoore:more or less, yes
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; kmoore: no, it will be, the plan is to turn AppCafe into a one-stop app for all things App related
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; kmoore: like System Packages - App Jails - Jail Management - VM Management
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; tboston: okay good
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; tboston: and we should talk about that directly with you? or who's done that until now?
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; kmoore: talk to me about it for now, kenmoore is doing some backend stuff, and joshms has helped with css / theme
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; tboston: we actually started with pcutil already
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; kmoore: nice!
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; kmoore: :stuck_out_tongue:
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; tboston: so now we have two projects
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; tboston: I'll go see my colleagues later and see what we can do
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; tboston: btw seen my pull request?
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; tboston: tested that on a freebsd vm already
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; kmoore: yep, leme get that put in
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; kmoore: done!
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; tboston: you'd better check again
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; kmoore: oh? it looked fine, did I miss a comment?
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; tboston: no no
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; tboston: just because I'm still not always sure if I did everything correct
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; tboston: although I tested it
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; kmoore: oh, it looked good to me, i looked at the diff :simple_smile:
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; tboston: k
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; tboston: ttyl, still at wok
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; tboston: work*
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; kmoore: ok, ttyl!
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; tboston: so
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; tboston: off work
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; tboston: I'm still not sure what you actually need with app café
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; kmoore: nothing specific at the moment. Its just that you expressed interest in hacking on jail management UI
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; tboston: yeah sure
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; kmoore: since we aren't having a 3rd party do it now, we are going with the existing UI, and I'm hacking on jail stuff at the moment
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; kmoore: so if you guys want to send patches, improvements, etc. those will be welcome
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; tboston: we'd like to make a project out of it
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; tboston: atm you have that 'plugin' thing in app café
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; tboston: I guess this will be thrown away and you'd want real jail management + vm management
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; kmoore: well, yes and no
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; kmoore: our current plan is to have the AppCafe do this:
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; kmoore: System Packages - Current way of installing PKG stuff on PC-BSD / TrueOS server
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; kmoore: App Containers - Pre-Built jail images, we can download / depoy with single click
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; kmoore: Jail Manager - Full iocage jail UI, for power users who roll / run their own jails
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; kmoore: VM Containers - Pre-Built VM images which can be downloaded / run with single click
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; kmoore: BHyve Manager - Full bhyve UI, power users, etc
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; kmoore: I.E. we want to have an "easy" option for jails/vms, and then the full-blown advanced mode, for l33t users :stuck_out_tongue:
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; kmoore: Often a home user just wants to deploy plex, but they have no idea about jails/vm, so container is way to go there
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; tboston: okay
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; kmoore: no mess, no fuss
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; tboston: and you NEED that in AppCafé?
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; tboston: or could that iocage/bhyve stuff be seperate
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; tboston: in a webgui
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; kmoore: Well, the AppCafe is a webgui, so thats part of it yes
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; kmoore: ideally we wanted it all there, so its a single web-driven location you can use to control all apps/pkgs/jails/vms on a system
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; kmoore: but it could be separated into distinct components as well if necessary
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; tboston: and then like an 'advanced' tab for power users
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; kmoore: more or less, yes
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